Who are you?
I am ZDoctor. I created Lockerz-Scam. I have been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably ignorant. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.
Is Lockerz a Scam?
Lockerz is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of GPT Sites. It is the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.
Show me how lockerz is legit!
Show me your proof that what we say (lockerz-scam.com) is false and lockerz is legit. Show us that everything we say is just made up. Don’t go and post videos and pictures of your prize or someone elses prize because that does not prove anything other than that you or someone else has gotten a prize. If you have read anything on this site you should know by know that we are not saying lockerz gives nothing but that they give a very small percentage of membership a prizes. Do you think lockerz is giving a large percentage of membership a prize? If so then show us proof of that and show some estimated numbers of how they would afford that. Don’t post links to several pictures or videos because you would need to post more than 200,000 to show that 5% of membership has gotten a prize from all the redemptions combined. Show me proof that lockerz isn’t influencing people to stay on. Show me proof that you have a big chance of getting a prize. Also don’t post a link to Liberty media or to something that says Kathy was a ceo of amazon or stuff like that because all that shows is ownership. Just because a legit company owns part of other does not make the people running the other site legit. Show me some logical proof with a logical explanation to show that lockez is legit.
I know i’ve only had lockerz account for 4 days and i already have 80+ ptz how can they afford that…they can’t can they I want t see sme proof too
Posted on February 24th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
if you look at a 360 game which is about 100ptz or $60….then each ptz would be worth 60cents so that 80+ ptz would equate to $48+ .., what better way to attract people then to make it so easy to get ptz and set the prices so low…
Posted on February 25th, 2010 at 8:42 am
I have 2600 points, and Ive been online for every point redemption… i have yet to ever be able to actually get a prize. I found a guy in a chat room with over 7500 points, and he also has never received a prize.
Posted on February 25th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
I’ve been on the site for awhile now, as I was referred to it by a friend. He’s “bought” prizes from them with his points before and I have yet to get one because I don’t really see anything I like. The way I see it, if all I have to do is answer a stupid question everyday and wait for the store to open (which it recently has for me), then what’s the hurt? If it’s a scam, what harm are they doing? Maybe they don’t give every member a prize, but I’m assuming MOST members don’t follow it day to day. Low risk and potential high reward? Who cares.
Posted on February 25th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
The thing is, as long as they send out a few prizes, it’s legit. It’s not a scam if they fulfill their promise. People think it’s a scam because they’re just angry that they couldn’t redeem.
Posted on February 25th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
So you’re not saying Lockerz is a scam because they give nothing but because they can’t give everyone something?
With the same logic, why is a retail store in town not a scam? They certainly give people something but they definitely do not have the stock to supply everyone who wants a particular product with that product. They will, at some point, run out of stock. But they are not considered a scam?
Lockerz, whilst I think was and is EXTREMELY badly (especially considering the founder was the bloody CEO of Amazon) that doesn’t mean it’s a scam. People don’t get to redeem their PTZ because of traffic woes, something which really can’t be fixed. Other sites generally fix this by only allowing US and UK citizens to register accounts and participate in the program but that leaves out a large majority of the world, a large majority of potential traffic, and is unfair on all those who don’t live in the US but are forced to stand by and watch.
Lockerz can’t control traffic indefinitely, any “promises” they make towards the notation that they can is a lie. They CAN block certain countries access to viewing their website but that’s about the best they can do, and that will not fool proxies or virtual private networks. No doubt millions of people visit Lockerz a day, when a Redemption happens millions view it at ONCE. Is it not reasonable and LOGICAL to think they site lag and even crashes are highly likely?
As I said, I think Lockerz was planned extremely badly (for example, they could have multiple servers on DIFFERENT networks for their users to browse the PTZ Store from, so that less crashes happen) but that doesn’t make it a scam.
Of course, you’re free to believe your ignorance. I can’t stop you nor will I try to. All these sites are a waste of time and if you truly believe you’re getting something for virtually nothing, you are mistaken. There is no such thing as a free lunch. I don’t think Lockerz is a scam, I do think people should get a damn job if they want something however, at least you can guarantee that.
Posted on February 25th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
I have only lockerz account 1 day(but i read a lot about it),but this site funny,i dont read just this 1(im sure you get money for this,to post,and people read this)They are scam because only pay/gift a very small %?No this is just real life,THIS show they are not scam.Where they can get so much money to pay a lot more people,if they do this,then they fail,and vanish,because they cant do this.
Posted on February 26th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Psy. I agree lockerz needs for servers, and lots more bandwidth. I’m not that ignorant. I received prizes from thing. I have no way to prove it because the shipping packages are long gone. Lockerz ain’t my life, it’s something that takes 3 minutes a day, and is fun. I wasn’t successful that last 2 redemptions, but received a game from decembers restock.
Posted on February 26th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
PSY…..because lockerz makes it seem like they can give tons of prizes and people have a large chance of getting something….also they say things went well even though they dont….that is deceit…..and because people lose time and effort because they thought they were going to be able to redeem…they got deprived…..so people got deprived by use of deceit……isn’t one of the definitions of scam deprive of by deceit? and regardless we are only using the word scam for lack of a better word that we can all agree upon..and also this site was made shortly after lockerz was founded so back then there was not all the videos and pics and they didnt have tons of restocks…the idea is the same though a scam is bad and lockerz is bad….they for the most part only benefit themselves giving little to nothing to the people making them the money
Posted on February 27th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I am 15 and have recently signed up for lockerz. The reason I signed up was because I figured “hey video games cost 100 ptz and you get about 120 a month, so thats a video game a month.” I have 90 ptz so far and waiting to try and reedem them. If I don’t get anything oh well. Its not like it takes any amount of effort to earn 4 ptz a day, just take about 1 minute of your time and thats all.
Posted on February 28th, 2010 at 3:22 am
Okay, so im not going to abolish your reasonings of, “Oh, lockerz is not fake, just because you didnt get anything doesnt mean its fake!”
But think about it, i learned that theres no such thing as FREE, who would just make a webpage that gives out prizes without a benefit to themselves?
Okay, maybe that lockerz is not a SCAM, maybe it can’t harm you in any ways, but i believe its a complete waste of time.
Okay, your reasoning of it being legit is that some people got prizes except the shirts, but in REALITY, do you actually KNOW someone that has recieved a prize? if you do, please say so, or my reasoning is right, all those people who CLAIMS to have recieved prizes are some people made up by LOCKERZ
Posted on February 28th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
ptz fly out of lockerz like free money at a homeless shelter…but it would take month upon month upon years to get that game..because redemptions last only a few seconds before most everything is out of stock and only stay up longer so people can redeem wallpapers….you would need more luck than the lucky charms guy on st. Patricks day and be faster than the flash on crack to fill in all your info again before the item goes out of stock (because apparently lockerz can’t use the info you already entered)….and even then lockerz rejects prizes and backorders items and forget or don’t ship them…i have been waiting for 8 months for my z-lister shirt and others are still waiting for prizes redeemed in november and december and still nothing
Posted on March 1st, 2010 at 12:16 am
Lockerz is the biggest joke I to tried it out for my self think hey this sound fun and easy answers questions watch some video and comment on them get points and redeem them for prizes. So I did everything they ask me too I save up over 100 points Than I tried to redeem them for xbox 360 game that wanted Dragon Age. And it said out of stock. So I said ok let try another game so I decided to pick Resident evil 5 and the same thing. So I’m ok cool understandable let try another game. I did this like 50 times and every time the same thing keep popping up sorry this item out of stock..So ok there ask to be something that isn’t out stock..So I tried ever item there for the amount of points that I earn and the same thing keep popping up. So that my story and I wouldn’t recommended Lockerz to anyone.
Posted on March 1st, 2010 at 1:52 am
I don’t get what you want us to prove. Do you want us to run around asking the world if they redeemed a price? Come on there is no way we, the individuals that go on the Lockerz site, can find out how many people redeemed. And I think that was your plan all along. We can’t prove it, thus your point is backed
Posted on March 1st, 2010 at 8:39 am
I have 2100 ptz, every single day. Is at there f5ing the entire day (about every 30 minute) and to this day i haven’t made a redemption.
I also reserved 250PTZ for extra redemptions and still couldn’t get it. This will be my last month if i dont make it i will give away mya cc
Posted on March 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 am
well no..thats the point all the proof people have that lockerz is legit is a few pictures and videos of prizes….If you had read I DID NOT WANT PEOPLE TO POST PROOF OR FOR PEOPLE TO ASK IF PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN A PRIZE….I want people to proof lockerz can afford what they say..such as revenue and profit records,…legit info on exact or estimated stock for there prizes..or give me some estimated numbers on how much they make from ads and what is there prize budget etc…basically the numbers behind the business…… I also showed that there is NO POINT in posting proofs and asking people because 200,000 proofs would mean only 5% have gotten a prize from all the redemptions combined from the year lockerz has been up….Basically the whole point is that PEOPLE CAN’T PROVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN LOCKERZ GIVES A FEW PRIZES because lockerz does not give enough info….so the argument that because a few got prizes makes lockerz is legit is false
Posted on March 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
This is a really interesting post. I’m curious as to why you have reason to believe lockerz is a scam. How do I know that the people saying they were scammed are not just aliases used by the owner of this site to make lockerz look bad for some personal reason?
As for your challenge to prove you wrong, that, as it seems, is impossible. We’ll be spending years and years disproving what you’ve said about this “scam”. You know why? Firstly, it’s because you said that showing you got a prize from them isn’t valid proof. How is that so? And how do you know the statistics on how many people haven’t gotten their prizes?
This seemingly challenging “outcry” is a commonly used, desperate tactic known as “shifting the burden of proof.” (I’m dead serious. Go look it up on Google.) Basically, it’s not supposed to work that way. You’re supposed to supply sufficient evidence that you’re right, not the other way around. Simply put, unless I see you post sufficient proof that lockerz is crap, then you are defeating the purpose of your own website.
Posted on March 4th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
showing a prize is not valid proof the WE are wrong….as we already know that people in fact get prizes……i how do i know the statistics….well i don’t now BUT looking on there facebook during and after redemption…before its shutdown because its flooded with i didnt get anything, lockerz sucks, etc…..yes this is “shifting the burden of proof” for many reasons….one is that because people like you ask for legit proof that clearly shows they are a scam…we are unable to show that hard proof but what? you follow a company because you have no proof of anything??? and thats not the only thing i asked for…a large amount of our argument is that THE ECONOMICS behind what lockerz says it can and will do…say that lockerz is a complete BS….where is you ideas on how it works? were are some estimated numbers that seam reasonable and not completely out there???? so because lockerz hides all the info that could be incriminating and the only thing we have to back it up is all the failed redemptons, the members who come here to complain, the math and economics behind it…you say that it isn’t a scam???? Yes it is our job to show proof but if this was a court it would be like us showing how they could not do it and showing just how bad it is…but all lockerz would be doing it sitting there…because lockerz or its fans have shown no proof that what we are saying is wrong..because there is lack of proof for either side BUT we show estimated but reasonable numbers to show how they can;t do it….lockerz fans say lockerz is real, lockerz is not a scam, etc, or ask for hard proof, or say something like they get everything for free,…..seems like me we would win a court case because you along with every other person defending lockerz is unable to show how they would work even in theory,,,,
ok so you say that everything in this world is 100% legit unless there is sufficient proof that can only be info that can be withheld by the scam or bad person/company…..so check this site out……you can redeem free prizes you just need to give you email and password…..http://sites.google.com/site/flcleva/……………think its a scam??? show me sufficient proof its not a scam and don;t put the burden of proof on me….
Posted on March 5th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Lockerz advertises by enforcing you to invite friends. The site grows, they get sponsors, they give out prizes to attract people and they make more money from their sponsors and advertisements. It’s not just some stupid shit that they give stuff out for free and for no reason…
Posted on March 5th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
I have exactly 1273 points at lockerz and have not redeemed anything. I think I will lose my points before i get a prize because the points run out after a year. If there is a 24/7 redemption I will use lockerz but the price will be insane like 5x what it was
Posted on March 6th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
lol jakdsjf…they have claimed a 4x price increase but wait now….they have also claimed more than 15 ways to get them so in theory it would take half the time to get enough ptz for your chosen prize….
Posted on March 7th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
that is if they don’t lower ptz values…but even if they change it to only 1ptz for a login and etc then nothing has changed from a non-launch..it would take about the same amount of time now to get enough ptz for you prize…but also…they do have a year rule on the ptz…but lockerz has had a majority of membership join between AUG-DEC….they have claimed early 2010 but its getting closer to mid 2010….if they launch this year at least a million members would have enough for ipod touch 8gb but tons would have enough for psp’s, ps3′s, and just about all the high price items,..most all members would have enough ptz to get something because lots of people have not been able to redeem and there ptz dont expire till late 2010………..that in itself would cause bankruptcy.
Posted on March 7th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
well they make money for people viewing their site and its powered by amazon -_-
Posted on March 7th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
great doesn’t mean anything…..they can;t make that much from ads to do what they claim they will…..they have a huge fan base there solely for the free prizes……and lockerz knows this….they make its seem if you spend only few seconds a day you can get huge expensive prizes……..when in reality they can only afford to give our a few and lie and BS the other ones…..The economics of a legit lockerz would mean that lockerz could never make a profit and would not be able to make enough to cover any of there cost…another company would have to be pouring billions into lockerz to keep it up,,,,,,,,what little information they could get would not be worth the billions they have to spend for it…..it would a ever growing black hole taknig all the money from the companies that fund it….no one would fund a legit lockerz……
Posted on March 8th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Advertising. Every time you watch a video, you’re being advertised to. It’s how Google can make Billions and Myspace and Facebook can be free. Lockerz limits the number of prizes that go out by only buying a certain number of products to give away. Whether or not that will stay the same is yet to be seen, but once the “full site” opens, who knows what will happen. I have not received anything from them nor do I expect to, but they have a great idea:
Make people compete to view advertising on your site.
More ad views = more money.
It’s genius, really. People want to view the ads and do things on the site so they can compete for free prizes while all the people at Lockerz have to do is upload some new files to the servers every day. Sounds like a great business idea to me and I see nothing wrong with it. I don;t even care if they give out stuff, if you want to be on a pure marketing site to see if you can try to win the only iPod that they give out, go ahead.
Posted on March 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
it is a genius idea financially for lockerz to be doing what they are now…
It’s a horrible idea, public relations and reputation wise…..because they rely heavily on people thinking that they are going to be lucky and be the person to get that prize…..yes some people will stay on for that chance like you “kyle” but after awhile because of the lack of prizes and the way they operate, lots of people will leave lockerz..because of this they will start to lose money…the huge controversy created by lockerz makes some people not even want to join….Lockerz also has a F on the BBB and have been unable to contact lockerz for more info……in the long run lockerz can not survive as is….and there is no possible way for them to make a launch as they have described……because of this after a while only a few people will remain like you Kyle, not expecting anything but hoping you will get that prize…but because only a few remain…they would have less money and prizes….if membership dropped a little too low then the money they make from advertising would barely cover there own costs let alone prizes…
Posted on March 9th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
people.call ur local apple store and ask them if they are partnered with the company lockerz. i called and they searched it up and they said yes! they are partnered with lockerz and deliver apple products to them!!!
Posted on March 11th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Psy pretty much gave you the proof you needed…
Posted on March 11th, 2010 at 10:49 am
“they are partnered with lockerz and deliver apple products to them!!!”…….walmart is also partnered with apple…doesn’t mean they get free ipods….it means they would get a discounted price for advertising and/or buying in bulk…but you dont get a retarded discount…you get maybe 20% off or something……apple is not going to give tons of free stuff to lockerz because sales to the public would decrease…people would stop buying them and redeem them for free….
Posted on March 11th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
We, the users of lockerz, make up potential consumers of products. Lockerz offers us points, essentially if we in return watch advertisements from their advertisers. Without the points we would not come here, so they offer a percentage of the money made from the advertisers (say 5%) and in return the have a large user base, and advertisers have a lot of people to advertise to. Everyone wins in this citation, Advertiser get to advertise, users get free stuff, and admins get money from advertisers, The site is growing, and the stock is based on the amount of users last month, the advertisers only pay for the people they no are there, but when the advertiser pay to advertise to 100 people, the stock is for 100 people, but has grown to 200 some people cant get their prize, site growth has to plain b4 winning will be more guarenteed.
Posted on March 12th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Wow. First of all lockerz is a site/ company that presents itself as a provider of products when in fact, it is just the “middleman”. The site is payed by the larger companies such as Warner brothers and Lysol to advertise their products through trailers and/or advertisements. It may be true that their server needs a makeover, however this is due to the site being premature. It is not a full site as you can tell by the constant acts of the site being taken down.
As for lockerz points, the company does not need them! They are just symbols of the fact that you logged in, answered a daily, watched videos or invited friends!
Targeted to the few who said it was a scam, it isn’t. The lockerz site provides all the merchandise it promises to the select few who take the time to figure out the redemption dates and actually redeem their products. Those of you who claim you saw people with “thousands” of points and have no prizes, don’t blame the site. Whoever you apparently saw is a a clear imbecile. If one takes the time to gather up an abundant 7500 points as claimed by camron, wouldn’t they know when, how and where to redeem their prizes. Only an idiot would have 7500 points and not know the best strategies to receive a prize.
Come on people, I’m a frigging 14 year old and I have the intelligence to figure out the reason this company thrives as well as the method it uses to distribute prizes!
Posted on March 12th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
ummmmmm I am sure there is no company or companies going to pay upwards of $120 million a month to advertise…and that is for a small percentage …like those who do it all the time….that wouldn’t be cost-effective……they would not pay that much for PRIME time…that amount of money they could run a over 1 and a half hour ad on the super-bowl…..for that amount they could litter everything Internet and TV and radio with there ads…
Posted on March 13th, 2010 at 1:17 am
Oh man the person who writes this article about lockerz in so much denial. They don’t even know how to type correctly or use proper grammar. I bet they don’t even know the meaning of scam.
Posted on March 13th, 2010 at 1:53 am
@Zgore: Continuing my argument from above, apparently you don’t truly know the meaning of “shifting the burden of proof”. Justifying this action cannot possibly be done simply because it is not a valid form of argumentation.
As for your sorry excuse for a “rebuttal”, I can see that anyone that tries to argue with you on this site cannot win simply because you are stubborn and simply do not know how to logically address a person’s accusations. If you used this kind of “logic” in a real debate (in college or otherwise), you would not win since you cannot correctly use logic or reason. You can only win arguments on your site simply because you are willing to stay on here longer than anyone who is willing to logically argue with you. Here on your grounds, only you can win. On fair, neutral grounds, you would most certainly lose. All you have is a theory. Just because you may not be able to wrap your mind around the economics of Lockerz doesn’t mean it isn’t legit.
Your statement which says, “[sic] showing a prize is not valid proof the [sic] WE are wrong….as we already know that people in fact get prizes…” clearly shows that even truth can’t win here. You say that you know people get prizes and that’s why videos with people opening their prizes does not support a valid argument here. This in itself shows that your logic is flawed.
I’m not saying you don’t have your little freedom of speech. I’m so thankful that people on the internet can show how they feel about something (allowing that they follow the rules) without being arrested or anything (though that may change with that cursed hate-crimes bill being passed, but that crap with those liberals is another story). I make sites that express my feelings all the time.
BE WARNED, however: heavy criticism will more likely come to sites whose representatives of said sites cannot support their claims or hypotheses properly. You’ll receive even heavier criticism if you cannot argue logically or reasonably.
Lemme give you some advice concerning this site: people tend to not listen to people who cannot argue reasonably or even speak (or in this case, type) correctly. Learn to argue correctly, clean up the grammar on the site, and get some pretty hard proof. This will give your site that much louder of a voice in this WWW. If you cannot accomplish this, your site will inevitably fail.
I wish you luck.
Posted on March 13th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
“Oh man the person who writes this article about lockerz is in so much denial”….ok, what makes me in denial? You have failed to explain any reasoning behind this statement much like the people who are supporting lockerz. ?They don’t even know how to type correctly or use proper grammar.” some things are misspelled and no, not the best grammar. Some of the mistakes are mine and some are wordpress but really are you going to complain about that? Lockerz has had tons of misspellings and grammar mistakes. There previous Terms of Service had so many that literally every other sentence has misspellings and grammar problems. “I bet they don’t even know the meaning of scam.” Well, apparently you don’t know the definition of scam nor do you know how to read everything available to make any judgment. A scam according to the merriam-webster dictionary is a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation. If you didn’t have your vision so clouded with ignorance you would know lockerz is deceiving people into thinking they will get a prize. Under the “about” section on Lockerz it says “AND you’ll get rewarded for just doing the things you love. When you watch a video, play a game, or even log in, you’ll earn Pointz (or “PTZ”) Lockerz own form of currency. Turn around and redeem your PTZ for incredible merchandise, unique experiences and exclusive deals and sales.” The key phrases here are “you’ll get rewarded” meaning you will get rewarded and “Turn around and redeem your PTZ for incredible merchandise” meaning once I get my points i will be able to go and redeem my ptz no problem. They did not say that I would have a small chance and would have to be faster than million of other. That is deceptive to say least. They have omitted the detail of lockerz and how things work. This makes people think a redemption is going to be better. Such an omission would be the February redemption when they had 4 waves. Millions of people were under the impression that they would have a better chance and said so on tons of sites. But lockerz never said that they were going to increase prize stock. They failed to let people know this. In case you didn’t know omission is deceitful and lying. It’s called Lying by omission – “One lies by omission by omitting an important fact, deliberately leaving another person with a misconception. Lying by omission includes failures to correct pre-existing misconceptions. An example is when the seller of a car declares it has been serviced regularly but does not tell that a fault was reported at the last service. Propaganda is an example of lying by omission” Your are just to ignorant to see the truth.
Posted on March 13th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
“Your statement which says, “[sic] showing a prize is not valid proof the [sic] WE are wrong….as we already know that people in fact get prizes…” clearly shows that even truth can’t win here. You say that you know people get prizes and that’s why videos with people opening their prizes does not support a valid argument here. This in itself shows that your logic is flawed.” well……please like i have always said…READ THE SITE…..The only reason I say that pictures don’t proof us wrong because we don’t say lockerz does not give prizes. WE claim that lockerz does not give a majority a membership a prize and me personally say lockerz does not even give 5% a prize….The whole point of this is to show that we do not have harder proof because lockerz holds all info to themselves. But the same applies to you as well, you can’t not show harder proof. We have the horrible restocks, The wording that alludes to guaranteed prizes, Lockerz horribly unkept deadlines, and the Economics behind it showing that to do many of the things they claim would be impossible unless another company was pouring billions into lockerz without ever expecting to get it back because things like a 24/7 restock would mean lockerz would never make a profit…..lockerz fans have a hand full of pictures and videos which if added together would not reach 5% of membership from all restocks combined from the year lockerz has been up, kathy was a CEO of amazon, and …….Oh and lockerz word…..neither side is able to show “harder proof”…..go to this site
lots-of-free-stuff.tk ……think its a scam?? show me hard proof that it is a scam otherwise it must be 100% legit…..”Lemme give you some advice concerning this site: people tend to not listen to people who cannot argue reasonably or even speak (or in this case, type) correctly. Learn to argue correctly, clean up the grammar on the site, and get some pretty hard proof. This will give your site that much louder of a voice in this WWW. If you cannot accomplish this, your site will inevitably fail.” ….Our voice is already loud….did you know lockerz tried to sue us back in December! But they could not show that we were spreading lies. Then because of that they went for this sites host. They claimed that we were breaking the law and breaking lockerz copyright…again we prevailed…after every redemption which is always horrible, tons of people come to this site to express there anger seeing as lockerz Facebook will be put down for the next couple of days like they always do…your whole shifting the burden is BS. In a court of law your innocent until proven guilty but how can the plaintiff prove guilt if the defendant can withhold all the information and evidence?
Posted on March 15th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
I feel I should add me two cents towards this as well… Aside from lockerz being a “scam” or not, they appear to be doing a “bait and switch”. Just from my experience so far with every login I have done for each redemption only the “bargain” items seem to always be gone. Basically any item where my ptz value is either 50 cents or 1$ per point. The only items that remain on the site are those that completely diminish the value of my pointz. They are advertising iPods, Wii’s, PS3 and Macbooks all for great “prices” but all you find remaining are paypal gift cards and some games.
Also, I HAVE redeemed a prize back in Nov in the Z-Lister redemption. 2 weeks later I get an e-mail saying I wont receive item and it was over redeemed. Instead I did receive a $50 gift card to amazon. But considering I was redeeming my ptz for an item worth $200 isn’t even a close comparison and not fair, especially since I cannot redeem since anything worth redeeming just happens to be gone.
Lockerz needs to change their ABOUT section to “chance to earn prizes”. It is basically false advertising. At least when gamewager.net existed they setup a raffle (daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly and yearly). They never did make it to the yearly just because the site was poorly managed. MANY people did receive prizes and understood the points they earned was basically a raffle anyway. I walked away from that site with a BFG GTX280.
This site, to me at least, wasn’t designed to have a bunch of people sign in and flame lockerz… The point of this site is to PROVE LEGITIMACY. And since very few people have stepped forward, tends to be more and more people stating lockerz is a scam… So, until actual proof of a decent percentage step forward, Zgore and this site remains true.
Bait and Switch:
1 : a sales tactic in which a customer is attracted by the advertisement of a low-priced item but is then encouraged to buy a higher-priced one
2 : the ploy of offering a person something desirable to gain favor (as political support) then thwarting expectations with something less desirable
Posted on March 15th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Hi!
I just want to add that i became a member of lockerz for like a month ago and i was really exited of redeeming something fun:) I learned very quickly that you need to be patient about getting something.. I loged in/refreshed lockerz page like 150 times. Soon i got in but then almost everything was gone except some t-shirts and some other boring stuff. But i got i price redeemed. I half fun thing but absolutely NOT the most valuable but i actually got a Iphone protecter.
Summary of everything: Lockerz is, if you a determined to get something, a relatively good way to get “free” stuff but its NOT easy! Right now im waiting for the March Radness redemtion and i have 252 PTZ.
I wish all of you, thats TRYING to get something, good luck:)!
Posted on March 17th, 2010 at 9:04 am
seems legit enough to me, though half-baked at the moment
along the lines of your argument, though, prove to me that you are not some sort of sentient robot sent from the future and manufactured to seem exactly like a human. you can’t truly prove that to me, though, on an epistemological level. and that’s the problem. if someone came forward with some of the numbers you have requested, you could just shoot it down, claiming that it’s a lockerz employee, etc. in this very thread, you asked for anyone who has actually received a prize to come forward. when people have, you simply changed your criteria.
i’m curious, though, what your criteria is for a scam. in the terms of use, they make no guarantee of product availability.
if your criteria for something being a scam is that you didn’t read, or misunderstood the fine print, then all credit cards, and a very large portion of offers out there, are scams as well.
whether lockerz is actually a viable business strategy is debatable, and it will be interesting to see how successful or unsuccessful the site becomes.
to me, though, your definition of “scam” seems to simply indicate being too lazy to read the fine print.
i’m also curious what the motivation behind this site is. it seems to have a lot of effort behind it. have you been personally offended by lockerz in some way?
Posted on March 18th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
“I’m curious, though, what your criteria is for a scam. In the terms of use, they make no guarantee of product availability”. Are you sure about that? Lockerz.com/about it says, “You’ll be able to do this all in one place, AND you’ll get rewarded for just doing the things you love. When you watch a video, play a game, or even log in, you’ll earn Pointz (or “PTZ”) Lockerz own form of currency. Turn around and redeem your PTZ for incredible merchandise, unique experiences and exclusive deals and sales”.
Okay it said here “you’ll get rewarded” and “Turn around and redeem your PTZ”… These words imply that i will be able to redeem my prize when I get enough PTZ… which is complete BS…. I have had more than enough PTZ for a game but I have never been able to turn around and redeem. They never said that it was a competition and made it out to seem like you get your prize when you get the PTZ… this is deceit…. a scam according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary a scam is a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation… Lockerz is in fact a deceptive operation…. Lockerz does not include anything about it being extremely hard to get anything… and when they say things like 4 waves etc people get the impression that there will be more prizes, it would be all over Lockerz Facebook and other places but Lockerz omitted it and failed to correct that misconception “Lying by omission – One lies by omission by omitting an important fact, deliberately leaving another person with a misconception. Lying by omission includes failures to correct preexisting misconceptions. An example is when the seller of a car declares it has been serviced regularly but does not tell that a fault was reported at the last service. Propaganda is an example of lying by omission.”
Now you wonder why this site was created, well in case you don’t know anything against Lockerz or even asking a question that they don’t want asked with be deleted and you will be banned from there Facebook and several other sites like PrizeTalk… There isn’t many place where people could talk about this stuff and those other sites would only allow 1 way conversations and/or not many people would be there to talk about Lockerz. We are here to (A) to get Lockerz to become legit due to our influence (B) and be a place for people to express there anger and beliefs on how Lockerz works without being deleted and banned which Lockerz Facebook and other sites do… (to a certain extent…no spam, tons of swearing, invites, referrals, porn etc…)
Posted on March 18th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Okay read the terms and conditions. it says: Lockerz may discontinue the PTZ program, raise and lower the value of the PTZ, add and remove ways to earn or use PTZ, or revise the PTZ program terms and conditions at any time. All PTZ terminate upon any termination of your membership. Please see the official PTZ Rules for additional terms applicable to acquiring and using PTZ.
These are the things this site is arguing against lcokerz. YOUR SUPPOSED TO READ THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS. This whole website is a birthchild of people that do not read the terms and conditions.
Posted on March 18th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
IS IT A SCAM:
Lockerz….hmm. Many people think that lockerz is a scam. For me I believe that IT IS NOT A SCAM. Why? Most people are curious how do the owners get money for their prizes shipped to the redeemer. Every website owner gains money with every click to their website, every time a user spends on their site is equal to money. Plus, they have connection to Amazon and probably that’s the reason how they get gadgets at less price than original (I think).
PTZ:
Anyway, haven’t you know the news? Lockerz will be multiplying the prizes by 4. So, if a 64GB iTouch gadget costs 800 PTZ, it will be 3,200 PTZ to redeem it. I guess that should end the doubt. If you think it’s too easy to earn ptz for an expensive gadget, I guess they heard it, by multiplying it by four. But they will be adding more ways to earn PTZ like Games, Videos, Dailies, Referrals, etc. Yeah, i know it’s legit. No need to worry.
REDEEMING:
But one big problem is the delivery of the redeemed gadget by a certain user. Many people around the world are complaining that they haven’t got their redeemed product. But one question is bugging me, are there only 2 people managing the website? Are they the only ones who buys a product and ships it to the user? I mean, 2 against the users of the world? How could they possibly ship the product redeemed to a user? Yes, I know, they’re proud being international, but only a few international users receive gadgets and some of them receive only Z-Lister T-shirt. Aw man…
But still, I conclude, that Lockerz is not a scam. It’s legit. It’s their problem.
Posted on March 19th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Okay read the terms and conditions. it says: “Lockerz may discontinue the PTZ program, raise and lower the value of the PTZ, add and remove ways to earn or use PTZ, or revise the PTZ program terms and conditions at any time. All PTZ terminate upon any termination of your membership. Please see the official PTZ Rules for additional terms applicable to acquiring and using PTZ”
These are the things this site is arguing against lockerz YOUR SUPPOSED TO READ THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS. This whole website is a birth-child of people that do not read the terms and conditions.”
Just because it is in the TOS and people are suppose to read the TOS…..most of the people do not read the TOS….now in the TOS it says nothing about how hard it is to get a prizes. It says nothing about that your chances are slim to none..They still deceive members into thinking they will get a prize. The TOS makes it so they don’t have to but lockerz is still making it out to seem like you will get a prize…which is deceit regardless if there is things in the TOS that allow lockerz to not give anything
Posted on March 19th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
“Lockerz….hmm. Many people think that lockerz is a scam. For me I believe that IT IS NOT A SCAM. Why? Most people are curious how do the owners get money for their prizes shipped to the redeemer. Every website owner gains money with every click to their website, every time a user spends on their site is equal to money. Plus, they have connection to Amazon and probably that’s the reason how they get gadgets at less price than original (I think).”
You got some of it right….you don’t get money for every click, you get money for every ad view and clicks on ads…but in case you didn’t know you do not get a lot of money from ads….certainly not enough to cover the 24.7 restock they have claimed in the past….
“Anyway, haven’t you know the news? Lockerz will be multiplying the prizes by 4. So, if a 64GB iTouch gadget costs 800 PTZ, it will be 3,200 PTZ to redeem it. I guess that should end the doubt. If you think it’s too easy to earn ptz for an expensive gadget, I guess they heard it, by multiplying it by four. But they will be adding more ways to earn PTZ like Games, Videos, Dailies, Referrals, etc. Yeah, i know it’s legit. No need to worry.”
First let me throw some price of items under 4x increase… Aluminum sports bottle 1300ptz…. but wait a ipod touch 8gb will also be 1300ptz… and a $25 paypal will be 1200ptz!!!!!!! but a PSP bundle would be only 800ptz…. .according to the LAB info from december ….it would be more than 4x increase… a 175ptz headphones would be 1000ptz..but if it is a 4x increase they plan on having more than 15 ways to get the ptz… right now there are only 4…. so they are going to add more than 11 before early 2010? it took them a year to get play up, they still need games, store, social network, etc… so a launch looks like it won’t happen for a few years…. but Lockerz could become like other sites and be legit but you do realize that for that to happen they would need to lower the amount of ptz you get say 1 or .5 for each things and raise prices over 4x…. they would also have to zero out a lot of people ptz because lots of people have been unable to redeem and by the time they do launch they would have more than enough to cover the increase and still get what they want… and with the claimed 24/7 restock they would redeem so much that it would cost lockerz a lot of money… so much that it could bankrupt them and after that if they didn’t lose everything and keep there promise, then it could become legit as people would not be able to get enough for huge prizes in little time…
“But one big problem is the delivery of the redeemed gadget by a certain user. Many people around the world are complaining that they haven’t got their redeemed product. But one question is bugging me, are there only 2 people managing the website? Are they the only ones who buys a product and ships it to the user? I mean, 2 against the users of the world? How could they possibly ship the product redeemed to a user? Yes, I know, they’re proud being international, but only a few international users receive gadgets and some of them receive only Z-Lister T-shirt. Aw man…”
Those 2 guys are not the only people running things… I’m not even sure if they do much other than represent lockerz…They manager of Lockerz is Kathy a former VP of amazon… don’t know why she left maybe she was fired because I don’t see why you would quit to start a company that gets a F from the BBB… but back in the beginning Lockerz had 12 employees but last i checked it was 200ish…. and you say a few international users get prizes but I have seen lots a international members make proof videos and right now they are winning march radness so i would beg to differ on that they get less… they have more members using the site… and a z-list shirt is a lot to get seeing as i have been a z-lister for almost 9 months now and I have still not gotten a shirt… 105 emails and only one reply which was there faq…and everything such as my address and name etc have been correct 100%…..
Posted on March 19th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Looks like nobody here never heard of web ads. It doesn’t matter if its a scam or not, and you’re right, nobody gets anything for free. That’s why the freaking made web ads! They earn money every time you visit the site or click the ads available on that site. So yeah, lets just say there’s a million of visitors a day for that site multiply it by .01 dollars then you’ll have 10000 dollars a day. Look, I’m not in it for the lockerz prize and stuff but jeez stop saying lockerz is a scam cause they do earn a hell lot of money by letting you visit their site.
Posted on March 22nd, 2010 at 12:29 am
“Looks like nobody here never heard of web ads. It doesn’t matter if its a scam or not, and you’re right, nobody gets anything for free. That’s why the freaking made web ads! They earn money every time you visit the site or click the ads available on that site. So yeah, lets just say there’s a million of visitors a day for that site multiply it by .01 dollars then you’ll have 10000 dollars a day. Look, I’m not in it for the lockerz prize and stuff but jeez stop saying lockerz is a scam cause they do earn a hell lot of money by letting you visit their site.”
First of we call it a scam not because they make money but because they deceive joining membership into thinking that they will get a prize easily. ok you gave me a number….10,000 a day for a million members so 60,000 for the 6 million users…so that is about 1,800,000 a month…so after they pay there staff’s wages and salaries for about 200ish employees, there hq cost and the warehouse (that according to google maps is 3x the size of costco) cost, the electricity for both, and insurance they may have, packaging, hosting, etc…all that before they buy prizes…not much left for prizes now is there….
if 200,000 people (membership is about 6 million) got a prize which cost lockerz between $5 and $200 (which is low since you can get a $60 game for 100ptz) it would cost lockerz between $1,000,000 and $40,000,000 for prizes that month alone. So a average of 20,500,000 a month for prizes alone for about 3.3% of membership…well if they are making about $1,800,000 a month that would be making about $21,600,000 a year….but to give a prize to about 3.3% of membership in one month would cost almost all of what they make in a year…..and they would have to ship each of those prizes which would cost even more..
Posted on March 22nd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Edit for above “out 200ish lockerz employees, there HQ cost and the warehouse (that according to Google maps is 3x the size of a Costo) cost.
Posted on March 22nd, 2010 at 3:16 pm
I don`t know much about lockerz and I’m wondering the same thing, I don’t have an account but my friend does and he got an iPod touch from them. I’ve seen it with my own eyes
Posted on March 24th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
I hate lockerz I have 9000 ptz and never got anything at the redemptions.
Posted on March 25th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Lockerz could be described as unreliable because of their over rated redemptions because they only restock a certain number of items each time. But the fact that even the mere 5% of the members receives a prize proves that Lockerz is not a scam. The “PTZ” system is simply a marketing ploy to get more members that did not receive anything in a redemption to try for something in the next redemption and keep on visiting Lockerz. “PTZ” are meaningless to the people that own Locker. A “PT” is just a symbol of how much you may (or may not) be able to earn in a redemption. The “Z-List” is another marketing ploy because the “Z-List” status us earned by inviting 20 members. And of course you are offered double “PTZ” for doing so. Lockerz is growing rapidly and making more and more money everyday. Eventually Lockerz may become a famous company with 24/7 redemption. So is it fair to say that Lockerz is not legitimate?
Posted on March 27th, 2010 at 2:45 am
LOCKERZ is a scam. Period!
Posted on March 27th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
I have to disagree with you DJ HAZE. Lockerz is unreliable.
Posted on March 27th, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Lockerz is not a scam. You are an idiot if you think they can just send free things out to everyone. Who could afford to do that? If you read all of the information about their site that they offer, you would understand the system that they use. Is it a “scam?” because you’re jealous of the other people who get prizes, while you don’t get anything?
And honestly, if it is a scam, its far and away the stupidest scam ever. I mean, honestly, what are you giving them? 5 minutes a day? Oh no. Go cry to your mommy about it.
Where do you get off with this sense of entitlement, feeling as though you, and everyone else, who contributes nothing to their site, other than maybe giving your opinion about a question once a day and watching some music videos, deserve to be given free playstation 3s, x-boxs, etc.?
Lockerz is an awesome site, numerous people have received great prizes for doing what amounts to basically nothing. Obviously everyone can’t be given a prize. Thinking otherwise is just ignorance. Taking it to such an extreme, making a website flaming them for being a “scam,” is just ludicrous.
If you don’t like it, don’t use it. You haven’t given them anything, you haven’t lost anything to them. Drop it and forget it. Some people love it, deal with it.
Posted on March 27th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
I got my T-Shirt I redeemed in the February Redemption, so Lockerz is NO SCAM.
This site is scam, you just have to be fast enough at the redemption and you can get everything you want.
In a few weeks I will get my Z-Listers T-shirt too.
So you can flame and spam here, or you get a life and redeem something at Lockerz, because Lockerz IS 100% Legit and NO SCAM!
Posted on March 29th, 2010 at 6:08 am
“And honestly, if it is a scam, its far and away the stupidest scam ever. I mean, honestly, what are you giving them? 5 minutes a day? Oh no. Go cry to your mommy about it.”
How would it be the stupidest scam ever? They make millions of young people think they will get a prize…so those people go and watch videos with ads and lockerz get money. And in return they give a very few prizes to keep the hype up. So they make money from deceiving there members. They are in fact a scam.
Lockerz is an awesome site, numerous people have received great prizes for doing what amounts to basically nothing. Obviously everyone can’t be given a prize. Thinking otherwise is just ignorance. Taking it to such an extreme, making a website flaming them for being a “scam,” is just ludicrous.
You say numerous…so why is it that there is not even 5% of membership showing they got a prize? if i type in “lockerz unboxing” on youtube i get 8,110 results which is about 0.13% of membership…and that is from a full year and all the redemptions combined.
If you don’t like it, don’t use it. You haven’t given them anything, you haven’t lost anything to them. Drop it and forget it. Some people love it, deal with it.
They have your address and can sell some of it. and if they want they can change the TOS and be able to sell all of it. But if people just ignored things they did no one would have tried to stop hitler. no one would stop criminals
Posted on March 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
“I got my T-Shirt I redeemed in the February Redemption, so Lockerz is NO SCAM.
This site is scam, you just have to be fast enough at the redemption and you can get everything you want.
In a few weeks I will get my Z-Listers T-shirt too.
So you can flame and spam here, or you get a life and redeem something at Lockerz, because Lockerz IS 100% Legit and NO SCAM!”
you say lockerz is not a scam because you got a shirt worth about 50 cents that advertises lockerz both by wearing it and by saying you got it on the internet and to people you know? SO even though lockerz is a deceptive operation (aka a scam) because you got a cheap shirt that advertises it can not be a scam?
Lockerz never said anything about having to be faster than everyone else to have the chance of getting anything. I really don;t think you have been to a redemption. you can be a faster than other people but be stopped by the errors and glitches the redemptions always have. And even if you get to redeem it does not mean you will get a prize. Lots of people have redeemed a prize and did not get a prize. they were told it was over redeemed or they cheated even if they did not or say it is back-ordered when it is clearly not (they have the same item in the next redemption) or lockerz will completely ignore you..and you say you will get your shirt maybe you will maybe you won’t…i have been waiting for my shirt for 9 months…my address it correct and i did not cheat…sent 105 emails about it over the months and only 1 reply which was a faq..and several others have yet to get a shirt..
Posted on March 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am
I have over 400 ptz but now you have to invite 20 people to start redeeming and I could not redeem anything until then, so that maybe your guys’ problem. I redeemed modern warfare 2 and assassin creed 2 at the Lockerz restock… I don’t see why you guys can’t redeem I don’t really think it’s a scam because you dont have to pay for anthing the only plus they would get out of scamming us is website population even a famous youtube has one and he gives out prizes bloodblitz he does everyonce in a while so idk
Posted on March 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Lockerz is not a scam!!! You say everyone doesn’t get a prize so what? Come on they are giving out 100% FREE STUFF unlike other websites, where you need to give a credit card number and so on. Okay let’s forget all that stuff and now think about getting something free IMAGINE a Wii to get you need to make 1000 ptz and that’s not so hard! Okay after getting the ptz comes the redemption part now you’re gonna say it’s all luck and here starts all the fake SCAM. Okay are you going to get a Wii just sleeping about in your house and the answer is ABSOLUTELY NO!!! That’s the same story with Lockerz all you need is HARD WORK, PATIENCE, AND FAITH!!! THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE THIS WILL START BELIEVING STUPID SITES LIKE THIS!!! COME ON DON’T LOSE FAITH ON LOCKERZ, IT’S LEGIT!!! THIS WEBSITE IS THE ONE WE CALL NOT LEGIT ALL A SPAM!! AND DO YOU KNOW I HAVEN’T EVEN REDEEMED ANYTHING YET?
Posted on March 31st, 2010 at 7:30 am
AND I LOVE EVERYONE ON THIS SITE WHO SAYS THAT LOCKERZ IS LEGIT!!! LONG LIVE LOCKERZ!!!!!!!JUST SIMPLY LONG LIVE LOCKERZ!!!!
Posted on March 31st, 2010 at 7:33 am
Those who say lockerz is legit can not and/or will not give a reasonable explanation on how it is legit
Posted on March 31st, 2010 at 5:29 pm
OK, heres absolute proof: Why the **** would lockerz want us to answer question and watch stupid videos? why would they endorse that by offering phony prizes? there is absolutely NO REASON for them to scam us. im sure they have a way of getting the prizes, and seeing as i have recieved several, i would know what im talking about.
Posted on March 31st, 2010 at 5:44 pm
“OK, here is an absolute proof: Why the **** would lockerz want us to answer question and watch stupid videos?” OK then….one the questions, They want you to answer those for marketing research. They use the answers and demographics of the people who answer them to get information that other companies want..those other companies pay for the collected information. And the videos, they have a ad in the beginning of the video, every time you watch the video, lockerz gets money from the ad view. ” why would they endorse that by offering phony prizes?” No one ever said they were phony prizes but that they have very very few prizes. “there is absolutely NO REASON for them to scam us.” lol….there are lots of reasons to scam us.. for one if they deceive people into thinking they will get a prize for doing little to nothing then they get more money from the large membership, two if they told people just how hard it was and did not deceive people then very few people would join so lockerz would not make as much money which the whole point of a business is to make as much money as possible. three there is no possible way for lockerz to afford prizes for a majority of membership. “I’m sure they have a way of getting the prizes, and seeing as i have received several, i would know what im talking about.” Your sure they have a way…..ya they buy them…but if you do the math you would know they can’t afford a majority of membership… You say you have gotten several prizes….well if that was true you should know just how fast and lucky you have to be to get a prize…seeing as redemption last for about 30secs before 99% of items are out of stock usually leaving only wallpapers. Are you implying that lockerz give everyone a prize? if 200,000 people (membership is about 6 million) got a prize which cost lockerz between $5 and $200 it would cost lockerz between $1,000,000 and $40,000,000 for prizes that month alone…they still have to pay shipping and electricity and wages/salary. hosting, rent, packaging, etc …..all that money for about 3.3% of membership but if your implying they give all membership a prize then if i use the same prize costs as above then it would cost lockerz between $30,000,0000 and $1,200,000,000 a month for prizes alone….that would mean they would have to be making more than there parent company makes in a year….you don’t get billions from a few videos with ads and marketing research….you have no idea what you are talking about….youtube makes about 200-300 million a year in revenue.,,,,are you suggesting that lockerz with a extremely small fraction of videos compared to youtube is making several times more than youtube?
Posted on April 1st, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Hi , its great that you made this web to prove something and save some peoples time but with the prize thing. Umm actually every user can get a prize like stupid desktop wallpapers and shit like that which never runs out of stock so that makes redeeming ptz for prices available to all members ! This is my 1st month with lockerz and I’ll try to get something . I rather try to get something =) i think its worth trying … my friend btw got z list t -shirt and mine is coming although the application for my address to receive the z list t shirt in international is quite hard to understand because you sill need to show your state code but in most parts of Europe there is no state code from 2 letters … well if you really go in to the site they have done everything so none can bug on them . maybe they only give one type of each category every redemption like there is only one PSP and one ps3 …so that makes the cost of prizes bellow 10 000 $
Posted on April 4th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
lol andy…..the thing that makes lockerz a scam is that they make it so that members think they will get a prize…..but odds are you will never get one…you say maybe one of each item….to keep it under 10,000….well andy…lockerz has several million members…a estimated 6+ million……and they have claimed a 24/7 restock which would cost them several billion dollars for prizes alone….which can not be don’t from a site like that….youtube doesn’t even make half that…o and those desktops…..people have tried to redeem them only to encounter errors….and even if you do manage to redeem them…..it’s takes 2-3 weeks to get them if they don’t forget to email them to you….
Posted on April 6th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Everyone’s comments on here are pretty funny to say the least. I myself was pretty skeptical of lockerz for the first two months since I signed up for it in like September or something and I logged onto about every redemption they had and I was so frustrated as the lag and crash of their website with the millions of members all trying to redeem something. I gave up all hope for lockerz being a legit site that gave out prizes for free though I eventually got my Z-list t-shirt from them, but that wasn’t suffice enough to be prize. Finally on the February redemption, I managed to redeem Tekken 6 for the Xbox 360 after refreshing the page for 11 minutes along with the super duper lag and man was I pretty happy to have REDEEMED something, but I had to wait for them to verify my account blah blah blah. That email came finally came around and they said my prize would take about 1-2 weeks. Next thing I know, it arrived the next week and it was unbelievable. I do agree with the fact that they probably have like a stock of 3 for each prize or less so you honestly can’t expect lockerz to feed the millions of members they have. I got lucky big time, but I am now a firm believer of lockerz and I can show you proof of my prize however you want and, I’m no employee for lockerz, just a stupid 17 year old kid. Also, lockerz only wastes your time, but it’s not like you had to pay for anything or sign up giving them a credit or whatever. You guys are unbelievably greedy and ignorant. They give away prizes for FREE. Do you really expect them to pull out billions of dollars every time a redemption rolls around? They may not have that much in stock to satisfy all of their members, but they’re definitely not a scam as I haven’t had any money jacked from me. The only thing I’ve lost so far is time, when I tried redeeming on redemption day, but couldn’t.
Posted on April 7th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
=Hi , its great that you made this web to prove something and save some peoples time but with the prize thing. Umm actually every user can get a prize like stupid desktop wallpapers and shit like that which never runs out of stock so that makes redeeming ptz for prices available to all members ! This is my 1st month with lockerz and I’ll try to get something . I rather try to get something =) i think its worth trying … my friend btw got z list t -shirt and mine is coming although the application for my address to receive the z list t shirt in international is quite hard to understand because you sill need to show your state code but in most parts of Europe there is no state code from 2 letters … well if you really go in to the site they have done everything so none can bug on them . maybe they only give one type of each category every redemption like there is only one PSP and one ps3 …so that makes the cost of prizes bellow 10 000 $
Posted on April 8th, 2010 at 12:20 am
Hi, its great that you made this web to prove something and save some peoples time but with the prize thing. Umm actually every user can get a prize like stupid desktop wallpapers and shit like that which never runs out of stock so that makes redeeming ptz for prices available to all members! This is my 1st month with lockerz and I’ll try to get something. I rather try to get something =) i think its worth trying… my friend btw got z list t -shirt and mine is coming although the application for my address to receive the z list t shirt in international is quite hard to understand because you sill need to show your state code but in most parts of Europe there is no state code from 2 letters… well if you really go in to the site they have done everything so none can bug on them . Maybe they only give one type of each category every redemption like there is only one PSP and one ps3… so that makes the cost of prizes bellow 10,000 $
Posted on April 8th, 2010 at 12:22 am
Hey. I have 1410 ptz and I’ve been a lockerz member for 4 days. I started out thinking it was legit but I’m having a little doubt.
Posted on April 8th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
mike…that is one of the major flaws with lockerz….you have only been a member for 4 days and you can already have enough for for a ipod touch 8gb…..because they make the ptz so easy to get and the prices of items (even though they raised the 4x) are still cheap….they can not nor will ever be able to afford a 24/7 redemption if they stay as is….because if they did people would be redeeming high cost items a few days after joining and other members redeeming huge prizes as soon as it happens…this would bankrupt lockerz
Posted on April 9th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
i recently ordered 900000 ptz worth of things as a present for myself
I got,
a nintendo dsi box and a stylus
Posted on April 11th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
You’re right it is fake. so don’t go on Lockerz. More prizes for me
Posted on April 15th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
lol more prizes for you……if membership drops then so does the prize stock…less people equals less money for lockerz..
Posted on April 16th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
LOCKERZ IS NOT FAKE.
Posted on April 17th, 2010 at 3:22 am
really….why not explain it instead of being dumb and illiterate…….lockerz is not fake just like hitler was not fake…..lockerz however is a scam
Posted on April 17th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Lockerz is a legitimate website. However, this does not make them an undeceptive one. In order to get paid themselves, through-not only advertisements, games , and all the other fun shitttt they offer over there to get points. No matter what people do in any website, they are getting views and clicks, which gives them money to give a random douche who logs in everyday and steals or makes fake emails a prize. Although some websites may not profit from views or clicks, Lockerz also gain from the questions people fill out. This is the same concept of getting paid to full out online surveys. As Lockerz becomes more popular, the advertising companies will see interest to join with the website and pay Lockerz to put there shiitt and surveys up. Ultimately, not everyone has the right intentions, such as the creator of this site, when they create a site promising lucrative prizes…. The fact of the matter, whether you like it or not, when dumb asses- WORLD WIDE dumb asses-thanks to bill gates, will always fall for the classic, IF YOU CLICK HERE , YOU WILL GET THIS….and yes i know that this response will become scrutinized by every pretentious fuckkk to disregard anything i say solely cause i misspell words…and to you users who do- i will not be reading any other comments because i fell the need to enlighten actual concerned people on the web. And to the few honest, curious and understanding readers, please note that it is solely my opinion. Lockerz is still a website for some reason, and that may be because there is a slight possibility it is legitimate. Yet, there is still lack of proof on this website from a satisfied average Joe pertaining to his reward… until then, I’m not joining to get spammed with HACKs of PTz and being raped by the amount of shit you have to shovel before you see any possible glimpse of legitimate reward. Besides a teashirt which basically symbolizes, the first dollar you invest in advertising and media on the website. Note that anyone can acquire wholesale items with a logo and become “legit”…..
Like i said, fuuck Lockerz- get a job time is money!
peace
Posted on April 18th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
No. But now i will. Thanks for that.
Posted on April 18th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
you got it basically except “Lockerz is a legitimate website. However, this does not make them an undeceptive one.” A scam is a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation…if lockerz is not an “undeceptive” website and they are using the deception to gain a profit then they are in fact a scam…now for legitimate…from a legal view point they are…but as far as use of the site to get prizes…they are far from it
Posted on April 20th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
I really don’t think that lockerz is a scam because if it was then somebody must have a proven, reasonable reason on why it is that. Also, don’t websites like lockerz.com send the money they get from sponsors to the company they use on their website? Therefore if they do, then lockerz is perfectley legit and there is nothing wrong. But until someone can concretely prove that its a scam, I say it’s legit.
Posted on April 20th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Based on what I’ve seen I’d say lockerz is more on the unreliable side than a scam.
Posted on April 20th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
yes lockerz is highly unreliable
Posted on April 22nd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Fact is: even if you have points, there’s no way to redeem stuff from lockerz, not that they won’t deliver it, you CAN’T redeem!!
Posted on April 25th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
you can redeem…it’s possible as i have personally redeemed…but the odds are not in your favor…especially if you go for a good prize
Posted on April 26th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
I don’t get your point, did lockerz ever said that you will get a price for sure? Let me guess, no.
Posted on April 28th, 2010 at 8:01 am
haha lol. funny.. the article summarises to be
“i’m right because you can’t 100% prove that you are right even though i can’t prove that i’m right”
Posted on April 30th, 2010 at 6:09 am
a friend of mine got a t shirt a while ago and he got a ps3 a few days ago. he managed to snatch it in march redemption (before the bastards raised the prices). it took a while to get here, but it did. he did however have to pay about 100 bucks for customs, but hey.. it costs almost 500 in shops so… I couldn’t believe it myself, but I guess they aren’t ALL scam
I still dislike them very very much, though
Posted on May 1st, 2010 at 2:19 am
Free things are not necessarily free. They come with a price to pay and it might not be money. I don’t care if if they are giving away plasma screen tv’s. I’ve got $230 dollars on hand right now and thats basically because i do what I enjoy doing and plenty more in my savings. It’s called a job, and hard work. Good luck waiting for those prizes to come in the next 3 years or so when you could have worked and bought a iPad in only 3 months.
Posted on May 1st, 2010 at 5:46 am
my point was that you shouldn’t say something is legit because of lack of proof against it…
a site for example….lots-of-free-stuff.tk….what hard proof can you find to say it’s a scam…..now that is proof that is not just theory’s or mathematics or dictionary definitions or economics…no the proof that you and others ask of me is the same proof of which i ask of you…..you can’t find anything about the site that can prove it’s a scam that follows your apparent definition of proof…the only proof you can show to prove it’s a scam…is the exact same things we have used to show how lockerz (as it currently is) is a scam…..i posted this because the only proof people had was a small percentage of proof videos and pictures, that the former CEO of amazon is the “Head” of lockerz, and some other information that we all know about….yet they have no form of proof that equates to the proof that you and others ask of us.This article also had another purpose…that purpose was to see if anyone could come up with information that was not known by us…informayion about how much lockerz gets paid for marketing research etc….info of the nature you ask of us…
Posted on May 2nd, 2010 at 12:03 am
Guys, lockerz makes money by selling advertisement slots to companies after publishing the amount of daily members they have. They get their money from the advertisements and use it to send prizes to their members. In the long run, the happier their members are, the better their numbers will get and the better their advertisement deals will get. So it’s not in their interest to rip off their members and that is obviously not what they’re trying to do. They cater to the interests of their members (I’ve been a member for a little over two months) and free stuff is free stuff.
Posted on May 11th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
lockerz does not make money from selling advertisement slots…..they use a online ad website…companyies pay that site to advertise…the ad company pays lockerz to place ads on the site…the money they get for CPM is not high enough to afford enough prizes for all of membership…to fund that would mean it would could cost more to advertise on lockerz than to be the only advertiser during the superbowl…
Posted on May 19th, 2010 at 1:34 am
lockerz is legit. for each view a day they are recieving money. this is how they pay for people to redeem. i my self have not redeemed anything although i dont use the website everyday. lockerz is legit. /discussion
Posted on May 21st, 2010 at 8:54 am
Okay, can you pelase show me how lockerz is NOT legit?
Posted on May 28th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
I do believe Lockerz is poorly run, regardless of whether it is legal or not.
I know of people who have not even recieved their lousy cheap T-shirt from the company. However, to find out about this, I may do some more investigation beyond this website, before jumping to ill-formed and biased conclusions.
Super Lombax
Posted on June 5th, 2010 at 11:05 am
“this is how they pat for people to redeem.”
So, each day 300000 people (clearly evident by the number of people answering dailies) go to lockerz and do shit there. Lockerz makes $4182.51 (http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.lockerz.com) per day. If we don’t count the fact that they need to pay employees, manage shit, etc. this would mean everyone earns 1.4 cents/day. Assuming you’re not a Z-lister and earning PTz at the regular rate, it will take 219 days to buy Skullcandy FMJs ($80 value). If this were to hold true that everyone earns 1.4 cents/day, you would have only made $3.07 from the site (far less as they pay their employees, etc). Now, a business exists to profit, so why would they basically give more expensive shit out for “free” and go bankrupt for no reason? Because we, the users, are not getting anything back for the time spent (at least the rightful $1-2 that we earn, as they clearly state that we will be getting “prizes”), Lockerz is a fucking scam. It’s the same thing as me auctioning my PS3 on eBay, but the recipient gets a fucking rock. They’ve wasted time and got deceived.
Anyone with common sense could figure out that Lockerz is a scam. Only the ignorant ones deny this and defend Lockerz.
Posted on June 5th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
I guess I was “made up by Lockerz”. I got an Orange Crush Micro amplifier in September from the redemption, an Adam Lambert CD from SHOP, and have a lip gloss on the way. It’s not difficult if you’re sticking with it, though the redemptions can be pretty crazy to get through.
Nowhere on the site are users guaranteed prizes – nor is there any guarantee that prizes will be stocked in mass quantities. There is no false advertisement, nor is there any “bait and switch” (the low-end prizes run out first because most of the members can’t afford the bigger prizes) going on. Furthermore, there is no scam, because no harm is being done to the userbase.
This site is ridiculous.
Posted on June 15th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
I joined Lockerz back in September of 09. While it did take maybe 3 redemptions before I actually got something, I did end up getting a 3rd Gen 32gb iPod touch. I also got my t-shirt for being a z-lister.
Posted on June 18th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
think PSY is right….that lockerz was planned badly
it wud have been better to make servers and different
networks and stuff im not saying lockerz is a scam neither
lockerz isnt a scam..im trying to say there are things lockerz
can do to prevent debates, angers, complaints, etc. like this.
i think lockerz is the border of scam and not a scam…they do give
free prizes but there are other people who miss out so yea, thats my
opinion
Posted on June 20th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
I came here to see if i should go to lockerz but it sounds like your starting a freaking cult and from what i read maybe there assassins figuring stuff out about america so they can attack us.
Posted on June 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 am
Think of it this way, lockerz redemption is only once a month. In that duration, all members hurriedly invite more members and do things to earn them points. You do know for every ad we view in their videos and etc. means that they get paid money right? As is the same deal on Youtube where when you reach a certain amount of subscribers and views you begin earning money aprroximatley “$1000, for every 100,000 views”, that means it’s 1cent they pay you per view. They also pay you 5 cents per subscribe I believe. Now then, how does lockerz get paid through ad views? The same way google gets paid for ad views on Youtube. The amount we get paid per view, 1 cent or so forth, is estimated to be half of what google gets paid, so therefore the 1000$ dollars we make from 100,000 views, google also gets 1000$. Lockerz is smart in which, getting members to invite people makes it seem like there is not alot of members. I’m here to tell you right now, there’s at least one million. Lockers is not country restricted and accepts all members globally. So with at least a million people viewing videos, answering dailies, and even purchasing from “shop”, think of all the money they get. Plus they’re keeping all their advertisement profits, so if google gave us 50%, and lockerz keeps all 100% profit.. they make double. Think of what a mere $10,000 they make (500,000 views), use it for products for redemption, and there you have it. We get ptz when we help them make moolah, they get money and save it up for the month. And not all members are able to redemption on time every month, therefore limiting the amount, and making members save up and continue this process until they get a product. But of course, once we get something we’re going to be greedy and come again, and again. Redemption is all based on how on-time and quick you are when they open it up. So good luck in the future.
Posted on June 23rd, 2010 at 7:27 am
Well well, no matter how many people constantly defend Lockerz, they still have yet to answer Zgore’s question. He wanted to know is Lockerz Legit? People keep critcizing him with their own stupid opinions. I read half of this and yet not partically close to anyone fully answering his question.
Me? My story? I say I’m a member of Lockerz and haven’t gotten my Z-List shirt yet after 2 years waiting. I had enough PTZ for a DSi months ago and logged on today to notice it went from 360PTZ to 1900PTZ with was originally the price of a iMac on Lockerz. Would I say it’s legit, is it a scam? I cannot say if Lockerz is or not, but one thing is for certain, IF it is a scam they are very good at foolish “college students”, average citizens, and overall dumb internet surfers.
Ironic to say that that oh-so-intelligent college student who wrote a long page of nonsense to make himself smart was too foolish to even check the site over the years. He can talk shitz, but he sure can’t back it up. Isn’t that what they taught you in college? Ever heard of the Great Debaters? “Always have evidence to back up your statement”, dumb prick.
Posted on July 23rd, 2010 at 7:05 am
Well if anyone says lockerz isn’t a scam they are prob working for them.I had caught them in the act while i was watching alot videos to get a wii and got it under 97.00 the next time i looked they had raised it back up to 167.00 I had email them and no reply.On there site they post they don’t tolerate with cheaters.they should take there own advice.beware.
Posted on July 27th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
DUDES! lockerz is legit! i was mad skeptical too when I was about to order something from SHOP. When i looked it up online, i heard it takes forever to get your crap but i got my shit man! it looked a little different from the picture but still i was amazed to find it at my doorstep like in a week
Posted on August 3rd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
PEOPLE look back to like february when they had a promise of 24/7 Redemption saying sometime in summer or it was fall last year when redemption was avaliable all the time. But that is still yet to happen. I have been using Lockerz for like a year and a half and 800 points later nothing. i have wasted many days where i am just Glued to my Computer f5ing and refresing and then i go to the washroom for two minutes and the redemption is over and i have nothing. I think its more of a Money GRAB than a Scam or advertising Tool. Cause now its more important that they sell stuff rather than give stuff out for Free. I think that lockerz is ridicilous Bull. I got Z list status and it took me 3 months for my Free T-shirt to come but BTW was very comfortable and i dont think they offer it anymore. So the Best Has gone. All in all i think its more of a Waste of Time People can Tell you its a scam but if you believe that you havea good enough shot of getting something (BTW they dont have 360 games anymore.) then whatever Waste days staring at your computer looking to get something that you could probably had bought if you had a job. Get to know that nothing is Free in this world and lockerz is no exception it costs you Time and your Fun. Just Do what you want to do if you want to go on it go on it if you don’t then fine your not wasting time. It all comes down to your opinion of Lockerz.
Posted on September 13th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
And Z gore is actually wrong if your running a site each click on your site Cost’s you money. I dont know how much but i know it does.
Posted on September 13th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
People just do youself a Favour if your Opposed to all this lockerz.com Free Shit and get a Job or go to kijiji you can find most of the stuff on Lockerz for dirt cheap In used condition but cheap. Honestly there is no easy legal free Way of getting stuff theres always going to be some sort of catch to it (of course with Lockerz its days of collecting points, Inviting a shit load of people for Z list status and waiting days on days for that oh so glorious redemption. Which Now seems Pointless cause if you look at what they have the majority of it is gift Cards and ipods, Macs Which most likely are a crazy Amount of points and extremely Hard To get.) As said those youtube videos showing people opening there prizes may in fact be true but Are a Small amount out of the people who Use Lockerz like 50 in 50,000,000. We can never really know for sure if Lockerz is legit but hell we can still buy stuff WITH OUR ON MONEY i am buying Halo reach tommorow and i am guarentee to get it and i get it as soon as i buy it am not reieving it 3 months later like my shirt. So If you want something get a Job and Buy it and dont use sites like Lockerz. if it is not a scam it is in fact hard as hell to Get something good.
Posted on September 13th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
And no offence but i think this site might be extremely Biast umm Okay it Might be Fake but we dont need someone to tell you that everyone there and the whole company there are lying f**ed up Douchebags if we have been on the site for a while i think it goes to show that you dont need somones strong biasist Opinion to tell you which way to go where not kids we know what we are doing. ALL in all if you want something BUY IT SIMPLE AS MUD.
Posted on September 13th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
If you have to invite 20 other people before you can redeem points,
it is an illegal pyramid scheme.
Someone should start a class action lawsuit and be done with it already.
Posted on November 22nd, 2010 at 3:57 am
Lockerz is just like eBay. The only difference is earning points.You use points to get percentages off of your purchases.
If you are so against it then just don’t make an account and let people be. If you don’t have one it’s not affecting you. And clearly you don’t because you are to busy rambling on here about a scam instead of education yourself by making an account.
Posted on January 20th, 2011 at 11:18 am
I have over 8,780 PTZ. and I didn’t get to redeem anything, I wish I had all the time I spent on the site back
Posted on February 14th, 2011 at 7:55 am
So, I have exactly 18540 points on Lockerz, and it’s because I have been watching those Dailies that award 60 points and all of the Homes videos that reward 250 points before they all left. I haven’t redeemed anything yet, because redemptions are only a few seconds now and aren’t fair whatsoever. If they want to get anywhere, they need to have 5x redemption every month! Seriously, this is just upsetting people day by day. And the new 24/7 auction, the prices are getting too high for the item. And high rollers like me, cannot bid on the General stuff for some wacky reason! It is so dumb, I just wish they stocked up on more stuff. Anyways, the government already spends so much money, why don’t they just give Lockerz some extra cash! Don’t you know, Obama has spent more money than all the presidents before him, combined! And he was the one that said he was going to save money! Wow, what a genius. And if you’re asking, what the buck! I’m eleven, and I’m quite intelligent. That’s why I’m already choosing libertarian over democratic. Not to fight over that, this is about Lockerz. Closing statement, lockerz is Gay!
Posted on March 17th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
yes, they are a scam i believe, i reached the thousands, everything was working, and now they have an error, buying and redeming dont work, they just send me to a random site that loops my email and password
Posted on April 1st, 2011 at 10:22 am
Hey I have been waiting for my Z- List shirt for over a year now.
Posted on April 7th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
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