Who are you?
I am ZDoctor. I created Lockerz-Scam. I have been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably ignorant. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.
Is Lockerz a Scam?
Lockerz is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of GPT Sites. It is the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.
March Redemption Overview
Alright, I’ll be honest here. I wasn’t on when redemption started so I can’t speak for the first hour of the redemption. Now onto what I noticed when I tried and Facebook experiences from others.
So here’s the main facts that you might want to know:
1. This redemption’s premise was to give the winners of March Radness a redemption. That means the losing team doesn’t get any chances at a redemption. (A competition of USA vs. The World where the winner is the team that gets the most points. It is USA, not USA + Canada vs. The rest of the world. If you’re wondering, The World won, which includes Canada.)
2. This redemption was in one wave ONLY.
3. It could happen at any time after March 26th.
4. Time was still not specified but it was supposedly timed to allow for the most optimal time for every global user.
5. All prices were multiplied by a factor of 4. That means games went from 100 PTZ to 400 PTZ
Alright so with the basic rules out of the way, here’s what I recall. First of all, the redemption happened at Tues. March 30, 2010 at 2:07 PM (GMT -5). So as a Canadian point of view, guess what most of Canada’s users were doing. Give up? The majority of us were in school when it first started. As every long term Lockerz user knows, redemption basically ends at the first minute of opening. That basically means, if you’re in class, you missed out. Good job Lockerz, you fucked over most of Canada because we all know most if not all of your users still have school. What do you want us to do? Skip school or class just so we can sit at a comp 24/7 just to redeem? School before Lockerz so I guess that means Canada’s pretty much out of the running for the nice prizes.
Now that’s basically for the first hour for people in the GMT -5:00 time zone. I was curious to see what was left so I tried to get on an hour later. At 3:15 PM, I checked it out. PTZ place was still up so I knew redemption was still on. Guess what happens now? I try logging in and get the “You are not part of this redemption.” message. I’m really confused so I head to Whatsmyip.com. Lo and behold, I’m listed as Canada. What’s wrong with Lockerz? I’m seeing my IP listed and I see google map pinpointing me in Toronto. At this point, I just give up and check out their Facebook to see what others are thinking. To my surprise (well, not really), others are having the exact same problem as me. It appears many were also unable to Log In at PTZ place and got the same message as me. I don’t know what happened but Good Job Lockerz, you just denied a redemption to quite a few of your winners.
So here’s what I hear as a rumour. I’m unable to confirm because I couldn’t find enough people who went to the redemption due to inability to Log In or because the redemption was over when they were finally able to be on the computer. Well, apparently, the jack up of cost on prizes did not deter the one minute redemption. Turns out that even though prizes were high and started to separate users into different PTZ brackets, all the prizes were still gone. I’m not sure about the Mac Comp or the Mac Air since no one was able to give me a straight answer about its availability. Everything else though was gone in the first minute again.
What I also hear, which may be a rumour, is that the remaining prize was another Paypal prize again. Sounds similar to the January Redemption though.
The last rumour I heard was that people who ran a US proxy were able to get into PTZ place. I’m not sure about it but I doubt it’s true.
So here’s my thoughts. It’s bloody obvious that games would run out fast. Look at it, the prices went up to near unreachable levels. iTouch 64 GB and the 32 GB are in totally new tiers. Back when it was still 800, everyone was able to go for it. Now that people with less than 1000 PTZ are limited to prizes, it is very reasonable to believe they would all go for a lower cost prize that’s actually worth something. The only thing that fits that definition are the Video Games so it’s quite clear they would sell out in seconds. It’s just more surprising that the high cost prizes like the PS3 and iTouch were gone. Lockerz has many members so it’s not surprising there are quite a few that have enough for them. BUT it’s surprising that they sold out so soon too.
Well I’m tired of writing now and I pretty much covered the basics. If you guys have an experience to add, go ahead and post away. Just try to be civil about it.
I don’t know if people who used proxies got to the redemption but it is a guaranteed prize void for doing it…..what is lockerz going to do when they find that they are shipping a prize to the USA when the USA was not part of the redemption…..
Posted on April 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
this is for any people who are going to say Canada was part of the USA team
“1. Team US includes all members living in the 50 states. Members in all other countries, including Canada, are part of Team International.”
from lockerz hallway
Posted on April 3rd, 2010 at 11:02 am
You guys hate Lockerz and you still go there…you guys are even dumber than I thought when I first caught sight of this..
If you think Lockerz is a scam, then why do you go “try” to redeem, get nothing, and make up some lame excuse, that’s just bullcrap right there, and still you keep whining about everything that happens there.
“OMG! They’ve raised the prices of the the stuff you can redeem 4x its original value!” So!? They’ve been telling you that for months in the FAQ, have you EVER read that?
Also, “Every time I go there when the redemption is happening, everything is gone, lockerz is a scam!!!..”
They know that, they’re trying their best to keep it fair, but you guys whining and crying about it isn’t going to solve anything, just give them some time to settle some stuff around, those people running the Lockerz website have other things to do than staring at a computer screen for hours and hours.
Also, what Zgore posted: “what is lockerz going to do when they find that they are shipping a prize to the USA when the USA was not part of the redemption…..”
Catch then and then probably ban them of course, think logically..
Yeah, Lockerz may be unfair at some points..I’ve just reached 1000 ptz last week and I was waiting to get a Macbook, and then they raised the ptz of a macbook to 4000, you don’t see me whining about it, also, my Z-List t-shirt was supposed to arrive last month, and I got an e-mail confirmation 2 weeks ago, It hasn’t arrived yet, but I don’t scream in my pillow about it..
Posted on April 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 am
@Beam
Also, “Every time I go there when the redemption is happening, everything is gone, lockerz is a scam!!!..”
They know that, they’re trying their best to keep it fair, but you guys whining and crying about it isn’t going to solve anything, just give them some time to settle some stuff around, those people running the Lockerz website have other things to do than staring at a computer screen for hours and hours.
1. They have been up for over a year and constantly changing their opening date. You’d think that after a year, they’d realize some of their major flaws. The first being stock on their products.
2. You say they have other things to do that stare at a computer screen for hours to work on the redemption. Well? What about the users? To even be part of the redemption, you are pretty much forced to be glued to a computer 24/7 for 4 or say days in a row. Remember how it can happen at an unannounced time? We don’t know when it starts and we all know redemption ends in the first minute. Why are we the ones forced to camp out in front of the computer and stalk their site when they can easily automate the redemption? You want to talk fair and lives? We have other things to do too. We also want our prize that we worked for. We can’t revolve our lives around Lockerz and that’s the reason we miss out? Just cause we have lives means we don’t get anything for a year? How is that fair when they can work 9-5 at a normal job and have a life when we have to go to work or to school and miss out on a redemption where they don’t even need to be at the computer for?
“OMG! They’ve raised the prices of the the stuff you can redeem 4x its original value!” So!? They’ve been telling you that for months in the FAQ, have you EVER read that?
No, you want to know why? I’ve been on Lockerz for around 8 months or so now. Back when I started, I DID read the FAQ. It stated that they would NOT raise any prize levels until full launch. It also stated that they would open up fully in fall of 09. Now what are you saying? I need to keep rereading the FAQ to see what they added or changed? It’s not my responsibility to have to read the FAQ everyday to see what they “Announced for months”. It is the responsibility of Lockerz to warn their users of upcoming changes in a fashion that allows them to cope.
With that said, their 2 week warning before redemption, I found enough time to warn people. I have no issue that they changed the PTZ levels. I have not whined about it, I have just stated that as a premise for the March Redemption. I do have a problem with you’re tone, forcing the onus on us to keep updated on a FAQ page. You want to know what? The American Court System is somewhat on our side on this. A court case between AOL and a user ended in favour of the user. The accusation was that AOL (or any company) should not change terms or information and not NOTIFY users. By changing the FAQ without telling you the changes is the reason why I’m even arguing this. Again, I realize they give you a 2 week warning about the changes so I’m not whining about it. I’m just in disapproval of you forcing the responsibility on US to keep ourselves notified using their FAQ. I joined before the FAQ was changed. There’s no reason for me to re-read it. They should be informing us of the changes instead of us hunting them down.
Yeah, Lockerz may be unfair at some points..I’ve just reached 1000 ptz last week and I was waiting to get a Macbook, and then they raised the ptz of a macbook to 4000, you don’t see me whining about it, also, my Z-List t-shirt was supposed to arrive last month, and I got an e-mail confirmation 2 weeks ago, It hasn’t arrived yet, but I don’t scream in my pillow about it..
Good job, you don’t care if you ever get something. Others do. Others don’t like to spend their time doing something for no results. What you feel about redeeming is your own opinion. You might not be concerned about spending some more time getting a new item but others might. Some people don’t enjoy a sudden change out of their favour and you must consider their feelings as well. It is incorrect to project your own philosophy onto others and judge them when they do something against your belief. You might call them immature for caring so much about a “Free” site where as they might see it as them being cheated or scammed. Just my 2 cents.
Posted on April 3rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
“You guys hate Lockerz and you still go there…you guys are even dumber than I thought when I first caught sight of this..”
ok can you please tell me what it is like to walk on the moon?…can’t do it..or at least not very well…..we still go on lockerz to keep track of what they say and post……we also try to go to the redemption to see if they still suck….it is harder to explain how things are at lockerz if we are not a small part of it…now for me i go and fill out the dailies once in a while with random anti-lockerz material that has no use for marketing research other than letting them know that not everyone loves lockerz……i don’t watch videos or invite people….usually just go to see how the redemption is..
Posted on April 3rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Wow. This is crazy. So basically people from the USA were not allowed to participate in the redemption? That’s complete BS. They’re alienating half their membership.
Posted on April 3rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
but they lied to….the redemption was for everyone who was not in the US…..they said Canada was suppose to be part of the redemption but they excluded them…who knows if they excluded other country’s
Posted on April 5th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Well guys i agree with Beam. Honestly sometimes people make promises thats are hard to keep. Come on? If you go up to a website director who has 1 million other ppl to worry about and ur like the 500th person to ask for an iTouch.What do u think he’s gona say. He’s gona say “Sure i’ll try my best to get you you’re prize” If he can’t do it. Can you really blame him? Another thing with the whole “Time Issue” i know its kinda unfair but we live in a huge world where people can’t exactly control time. No human can just bend space. They are human beings they try to find the BEST time for the winning team example: If they made the redemption at about 4:50 (Canadian Time) and around 10 other countries kids would be at school or sleeping would it be fair to let like 11 countires get something and screw 10 or leave out 1 country and help 20? im using unrelistic numbers but you should get the point. They try to find the BEST time not the time to help Canada only. I just joined Lockerz so i wouldnt really know what i would get. But think about ur 7th Grade Math problems. Which statment would BEST apply to this rule? apply it to this and you should see.
Posted on April 5th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
@B.S.
Yes people are most likely unable to keep big promises. But as a corporation, the idea is to build a mutual trust between user and company. From the start of Lockerz to now, their trust building abilities have been far less than stellar. The way Lockerz introduced themselves to you would be like this analogy : Let’s say you were in Grade 3. A kid comes up to you and asks you to be his friend for candy. You agree and then you find out that you will never get any candy or that he’s always reluctant to give you candy (like a 1% chance he says yes). He promised to give you candy but then turns around and says no or I’d really rather not. You’ve just been lied to and gained nothing. What Lockerz is doing is similar but on a much larger scale.
When you’re a corporation, promising prizes for simple tasks, you’re expected to keep your promise. Let’s say I go to Walmart and use their Lowest Price Guaranteed promise and price match a video game for $10 less than their competitor. I’m expecting them to give me this price match because it was a promise made by the corporation to gain customers. As long as I do not go beyond the terms they laid out, I’m expecting them to keep that promise of being Lowest Priced. If you’re wondering, then yes. I would call their price match policy a scam. They advertise this policy to gain customers but refuse to honour it? That would be justifiable to the Merriam-Webster dictionary’s meaning of scam. The difference between Walmart and Lockerz is that Walmart actually fulfills their promise(price match policy).
There were 2 things they could easily have done.
1. Do not mislead their users into thinking that its a 100% style redemption by rewording it or making it more clear.
2. Do not even contemplate on making a global promise when the odds for reaching the promise are astronomically outside your favour.
I’ve already stated that a single redemption to satisfy the world was asinine. It’s impossible because Time Zones differ too much. That is why I suggested in making several redemptions. Consider this: 1 redemption for every one in PST – EST. That means an optimal time range could still be possible considering it is a 3 hour time difference. Then a single redemption for Europe. I am not 100% on this but I think their Time Zone difference from 1 extreme to another is small too. Then the same for the rest of the world.
Of course prize totals must be manipulated to fit the range but wouldn’t this solution be more optimal? Atleast people will have a chance. Most of Canadian users were in school. That means they didn’t even get a chance to see the redemption. In my scenario, chances of redeeming are significantly lower than normal but atleast I know in my scenario, everyone would be in their most opportune time. Atleast in my scenario, no one is taken out of the running for prize redemption due to prior, unbreakable commitments.
You confine yourself in thinking the RULES have already been set and that Lockerz has been restricted somehow. That is never the case. Lockerz is omnipotent on their website. They are able to make a prize redemption in any way that they want. They were never restricted to a single redemption. They could have easily made it in waves again if they wanted to. That’s why they could easily avoid screwing over users. I don’t know why they confined themselves to a single redemption but it was truly stupid to think it would satisfy the world. Screwing over users is easier than coding several redemptions so they could have called it too much hassle to see the content faces of their users.
Posted on April 5th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
To the whole “Canada wasn’t part of the redemption thing”. I live around Toronto, and I was able to get in. Ironically, I logged on an hour after just like you Albert, and I got on. I’m sure the problem wasn’t’ that lockerz didn’t allow Canadians into the redemption, but that they were closing the redemption. And like people have being saying, they picked the best time for everyone, not the best time for just Canada. Lockerz has to find which time is the best even though there might be members from every time zone in the world.
And to the stock of prizes. It’s not like they can pay for thousands of copies for of Modern Warfare 2. This is luck. You have to be lucky to redeem and if you haven’t got that yet, then you probably never will.
Posted on April 7th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
“And to the stock of prizes. It’s not like they can pay for thousands of copies for of Modern Warfare 2. ” true….but what about there claims of a 24/7 restock….this idea is what is keeping a lot of members on…..but they can’t afford it…
Posted on April 7th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
@Ice Cream
Again you people are avoiding the fact that they did not ever have to choose ONE specific time to do it. Lockerz has the power to do it at multiple times, each being opportune to different parts of the world. Such as 4:00 PM for Canada as 1 redemption targeted directly to Canadians. Then another redemption at 4:00 PM for Germany or India. This could go on for every timezone and restrict people in different areas from redeeming. They were never bound to a single redemption. In this case, wouldn’t it satisfy everyone?
Posted on April 7th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
@Albert
Every Lockerz member would be satisfied but Lockerz wouldn’t. If they did redemptions for every timezone, they would lose money. And they would have to restock like crazy
Posted on April 8th, 2010 at 7:16 am
@Ice Cream
They never have to restock like crazy. They could if they wanted to be fair with their user base.
Here’s the scenario that would keep most of the world happy with Lockerz during the redemption.
1. They make a separate redemption for each timezone.
2. They split up their total number of prizes evenly throughout all the redemptions.
3. They announce that each timezone will get their own redemption at their opportune times. They never tell anyone about the splitting of the total number of prizes just like last redemption.
5. No Lockerz user figures out that the prizes have been reduced so everyone expects that a lightning fast restock is normal.
Here’s when things get really trippy Ice Cream. Everyone expects the lightning fast restock right? We all know that it happens. The big thing is that now everyone knows that they were just too slow. This way, people wouldn’t feel left out because of a prior, unbreakable commitment. Lockerz doesn’t lose money, everyone feels like they had a REAL chance. Win/Win for Lockerz. The only complaint would be the typical “Everything was Sold Out in a minute.” which is not new at all for Lockerz.
Look at February restock. They just claimed 4 waves. They never said anything about increasing the amount of prizes they had. That could totally mean they had the same prize total as the prior month but just split it among the waves. If that is what happened, then they could easily do it again. It’s not like the Lockerz fan base would have figured it out. They would have been blinded by the happiness of getting to redeem at a great time.
Posted on April 8th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
You forgot to add your typical “lockerz is a scam! they are going down!” stuff.
Posted on April 14th, 2010 at 9:04 am
I’ve redeemed new super mario bro on wii. This lockerz redemption was perfect, no lag !
Posted on April 20th, 2010 at 7:31 am
lol perfect…..it’s only perfect to you…your not looking at the whole thing….did you go back and look at prize stock after you redeemed….it would be empty
Posted on April 21st, 2010 at 1:39 am
fuck lockerz
Posted on April 22nd, 2010 at 8:57 am
again screw lockerz.
Posted on April 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
@B.S.
Yes people are most likely unable to keep big promises. But as a corporation, the idea is to build a mutual trust between user and company. From the start of Lockerz to now, their trust building abilities have been far less than stellar. The way Lockerz introduced themselves to you would be like this analogy : Let’s say you were in Grade 3. A kid comes up to you and asks you to be his friend for candy. You agree and then you find out that you will never get any candy or that he’s always reluctant to give you candy (like a 1% chance he says yes). He promised to give you candy but then turns around and says no or I’d really rather not. You’ve just been lied to and gained nothing. What Lockerz is doing is similar but on a much larger scale.
When you’re a corporation, promising prizes for simple tasks, you’re expected to keep your promise. Let’s say I go to Walmart and use their Lowest Price Guaranteed promise and price match a video game for $10 less than their competitor. I’m expecting them to give me this price match because it was a promise made by the corporation to gain customers. As long as I do not go beyond the terms they laid out, I’m expecting them to keep that promise of being Lowest Priced. If you’re wondering, then yes. I would call their price match policy a scam. They advertise this policy to gain customers but refuse to honour it? That would be justifiable to the Merriam-Webster dictionary’s meaning of scam. The difference between Walmart and Lockerz is that Walmart actually fulfills their promise(price match policy).
There were 2 things they could easily have done.
1. Do not mislead their users into thinking that its a 100% style redemption by rewording it or making it more clear.
2. Do not even contemplate on making a global promise when the odds for reaching the promise are astronomically outside your favour.
I’ve already stated that a single redemption to satisfy the world was asinine. It’s impossible because Time Zones differ too much. That is why I suggested in making several redemptions. Consider this: 1 redemption for every one in PST – EST. That means an optimal time range could still be possible considering it is a 3 hour time difference. Then a single redemption for Europe. I am not 100% on this but I think their Time Zone difference from 1 extreme to another is small too. Then the same for the rest of the world.
Of course prize totals must be manipulated to fit the range but wouldn’t this solution be more optimal? Atleast people will have a chance. Most of Canadian users were in school. That means they didn’t even get a chance to see the redemption. In my scenario, chances of redeeming are significantly lower than normal but atleast I know in my scenario, everyone would be in their most opportune time. Atleast in my scenario, no one is taken out of the running for prize redemption due to prior, unbreakable commitments.
You confine yourself in thinking the RULES have already been set and that Lockerz has been restricted somehow. That is never the case. Lockerz is omnipotent on their website. They are able to make a prize redemption in any way that they want. They were never restricted to a single redemption. They could have easily made it in waves again if they wanted to. That’s why they could easily avoid screwing over users. I don’t know why they confined themselves to a single redemption but it was truly stupid to think it would satisfy the world. Screwing over users is easier than coding several redemptions so they could have called it too much hassle to see the content faces of their users.
Posted on April 23rd, 2010 at 11:06 am
U guys all suck, Lockerz is great. They said the prices of their products were going to multiplied by 4 a long time ago in the hallway. But if you only get on Lockerz when redemption is happening. Then you can’t blame them because you dindn’t knew(i knew it)
And the time problem in Canada, i got some news for you, the world is NOT all about Canada. In this big world are more countries. And if it said you’re not allowed in this redemption. Then you probably didn’t said in which country you’re living in.
Lockerz isn’t a scam, you guys are little babies who can’t accept the fact that Lockerz is giving you stuff, and the only thing how you must pay for it is every day 5 minutes of your time
Posted on April 24th, 2010 at 11:41 am
They only said it 2 weeks into March so no, that wasn’t a long time ago. Especially since all members from 2009 were told that there were not going to be price inflations until the 24/7 redemption.
Well I’ve got news for you, There are many many parts in Asia that had to stay up until 2 AM to see the redemption. Australia would have been 5:07 AM. If you don’t understand the point I’m getting at, then I’ll put it into simple terms for you. THIS REDEMPTION WAS ONLY SET AT AN OPTIMAL TIME FOR A PART OF EUROPE. 1 single redemption can NOT satisfy the world. There will never be an optimum time to host a GLOBAL redemption.
I’m not allowed in the redemption because of my country?! Have you read anything I’ve written? I wrote “FROM A CANADIAN POINT OF VIEW” meaning I was writing as a Canadian.
Lockerz is a scam but I’m not going into that in this post.
You are not spending 5 minutes of your time. Considering how you must be on the computer 24/7 to try and redeem, you are spending many many hours on Lockerz, stalking the site. If you don’t want any prizes, then yes, you only waste 5 minutes a day.
Posted on April 24th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
“little babies who can’t accept the fact that Lockerz is giving you stuff,” hmmmm….. we can’t accept it as it’s not true…..lockerz is not giving us free stuff…there giving us the chance of trying to redeem a free prize even though odds are we won’t get it”………….
Posted on April 25th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Interesting stuff.
I came here because I investigate alleged scams. It is interesting to find out that many people consider Lockerz a scam and many do not. I am not a member so I am not sure how they receive revenue to stay in business. They must have ads on their site that make offers that members click on or purchase from.
Am I right?
If they are breaking promises made to their members then yes they probably do qualify as a scam. If they are changing the rules as they go and are not sending out emails to all of their members notifying them of the changes well i advance of the changes then they are breaking the rules of not only common decency but legal president that has been set in courts of law.
They also have to post any major changes in or on a prominent place on their site that is seen by most of their members along with the issuing of email notifications.
If they do not implement and comply with these simple procedures then, yes, they qualify as a scam.
There are companies that are called scams that really do not meet the criteria, but there are companies that are scams that also stay a hairs breadth between scamming and complying with the laws within the country that they are registered in.
If you type the word scam after a company name in a search browser and there are hundreds or thousands of results then if is a very good possibility that it is truly a scam.
By hundreds or thousands, meaning that on several scam reporting site there are this many complaints combined.
Calling something a scam does not prove it a scam. It has to fit certain criteria. And even if it does fit the criteria does not mean that any laws have been broken, until someone takes the issues concerned into a court of law and gets a ruling.
There are scams that go unattended by law enforcement and are untouchable by the legal system, but they are still scams.
A true scam is not arguable or defensible. There are people that may argue that a product or program is not a scam but usually it is because they have benefited from it in some way, while others have felt cheated or lost money and time due to the nature of the product or program.
Posted on May 8th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Concerning whether it is a scam or not, there are just some things I know for certain. The wording of their description is incredibly misleading. I usually ask people what they think prize redeeming means on Lockerz and most if not all answer back “Just earn and then go and redeem”. Every single one of them were surprised and disappointed to find out it wasn’t true. They all told me that is what Lockerz implied to them when they were reading Lockerz’s own description. I would classify that as gain from deception. I personally have felt cheated, learning that even though their description implies gaining prizes easily and at your leisure, we are bound to minimal chances and only a small percentage of users getting prizes at all. Kind of like everyone lost their time just to make a company richer while gaining close to nothing back.
When it comes to changing information, they do change their information. Back in 2009, they had more written in their FAQ. Now that I look at it now, it seems clipped down to a few questions. Although they were small changes to info, such as release date of the “official” Lockerz and any talk of the 24/7 redemption, many small changes overtime have a large impact. I can only see remnants of what used to be written. I also find it interesting that one of the questions listed is “How will Lockerz make money?” and they avoid the question. Their first line is that they will have a shop from which we buy stuff. Ok, you gain a little profit from a shop. Why are you telling us about how to get more PTZ? Why do you not address your ads? Everyone with half a mind would realize that you make money off the 30 second ads prior to watching a video.
“There are scams that go unattended by law enforcement and are untouchable by the legal system, but they are still scams.”
As long as legality is concerned, Lockerz is pretty much in the clear. They have not infringed on any laws that I know of. However, you are right in that scams do not have to be illegal. Lockerz is intelligent in that way. They tell you one thing in the About section and then write a protection in their Terms of Use. What i am referring to is the fact that they are able to terminate PTZ and render all of them useless at anytime. They are also able to NOT give you a prize if they feel you have cheated. Not “Know you cheated” but “Feel you have cheated”. They are also obligated to not give you a prize if they deem it out of stock, although you may have redeemed.
“There are people that may argue that a product or program is not a scam but usually it is because they have benefited from it in some way, while others have felt cheated or lost money and time due to the nature of the product or program.”
Truer words were never repeated. Many times, there are a bunch of Lockerz users coming to this site to argue the legitimacy of Lockerz, all on the basis that they have received a prize. No kidding you got a prize. Lockerz does send out prizes to keep up hype. To keep up their image. If no one got a prize, do you think Lockerz would be able to survive at all? The fact that there are people defending Lockerz on the idea that they got a prize is allowing Lockerz to stay afloat. While everyone has not gotten a prize, a handful of people did get to redeem. People who redeemed feel Lockerz is a true company while we who have not feel Lockerz is just wasting our time, making us jump through hoops to redeem.
Lockerz is a scam. They just do a good job in convincing teens that they aren’t.
Posted on May 9th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I think that Lockerz is misleading they say you earned it go get it but they never have enough prizes to cover all the points that we earn but to listen to them talk all you have to do is redeem.
Posted on May 12th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Fribiz is the first ever social marketplace, where users can win real and exciting products just for being themselves! It is a new startup that lets users bid for free products using virtual credits called “fribiz”. Users can begin to earn fribiz credits the moment they register using a variety of methods including: inviting friends, participating in auctions or missions and interacting with Fribiz business partners.
Fribiz was founded and is managed by Effi Fuks and Yaniv Shimony on June 2010, and was develops and designed by Lionite. Fribiz’s customer service is located is located in Ann-Arbor, Michigan, USA, while its development team is located in Tel Aviv, Israel.
Fribiz sets itself apart from the countless other online auction sites in that it integrates with the Facebook social network to create a social bidding experience. This innovative format is a first and may setup Fribiz apart from its Rivals. However, only time will tell if this approach is successful.
Check it out here!
http://www.fribiz.com/referrer/jonuel
The products that users can win are top notch and include Mafia Wars Gift Cards and Ipads.
Posted on November 25th, 2010 at 8:58 am
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